Open—S. Jacobsen, R. Thonney
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Up first, a verse in the 8th chapter of Romans.
A verse that I might say, and I say it with reverence.
Is sometimes rather glibly spoken.
And I say it may be for my own exercise as much and maybe more than for yours, but a verse or two in the eighth of Romans and then back to the Old Testament.
Romans 8 and verse 28 and we often stop there. But I'd like to read on and read what I believe that the purpose of the 28th verse is as given in the 29th verse. So it's Romans the 8th chapter and the 28th and 29th verses.
We know, if we don't know what we should pray for as we ought.
We do know that all things work together for good to them that love God to them who are the called according to his purpose and invariably in memory verse or in speaking to one another. We stopped at that and oftentimes I've wondered exactly what is the application of the 28th verse. It says all things work together for good.
And because I have a renewed nature, and you have a renewed nature, you accept it as the Word of God. And you know that whether you understand this application, it certainly is living. But I would take the liberty of suggesting that the 29th verse gives us that purpose to which God is working. All things in your life and mine. For whom He did for know, He also did predestinate.
To be conformed to the image of his son and he might be the first born among many brothers. And my thesis is simply this as a there's been an exercise for some time and I have to admit that I rather trembled when our brother started with Job. I thought is what I have of the Lord and I trust it is. It's a little bit different bent, but it's still in the book of Job and I would like to emphasize.
Before we go back to the 7th chapter of the book of Job that I believe that every circumstance in your life and mine.
Understood or not, is working towards the good that God wants.
In your life and mine, to have conformity to His beloved son.
And what I believe. I'll give a few illustrations before we go back.
If the tone of voice, the words that I speak to my wife when I'm frustrated.
Were on a tape what I want it to be played at this time.
Do we have little thoughts of grudges towards certain brethren? I mentioned a certain brother who's no longer with us, but at one time I mentioned to brother X.
For the sake of not saying who it was, Is he? Do you pray for him? And he says no, he's not on my prayer list.
Now, by the grace of God, I trust that I'm not one of those that because if you knew me, no, I don't bother. He's not on my prayer list. And so the the word of God has saved us and the word of God comes in and seeks to mold, you know the old story that boy meets girl and after they're married, the man or the woman says, oh, I hope you love me for just exactly what I am.
Well, God didn't love us in the beginning for what we were, and he doesn't love us now for what we are.
He loved us in the 1St place because God is love and He saved us.
And now that after we're saved, he wants us to be conformed to the image of his son.
Let's go back to the 7th chapter of the book of Job and I'm going to take the liberty of reading that portion from what we call the new translation, Mr. Darby's translation, but I'll turn to it the 7th chapter of Job and starting with.
The 17th verse and there are some expressions that are used in the new translation that I believe help to bring out the point of that portion.
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Starting with the 17th verse, what is man that thou makest much of him?
And that thou settest thy heart upon him, and that thou visitest him every morning, tryest him every moment. How long wilt thou not look away from me, nor let me alone, till I swallow down my spittle, until I die? Have I sinned? What do I unto thee, thou observer of men? Why hast thou set me as an object of assault for thee, so that I am become a burden to myself?
And why dost thou, and why dost not thou forsake my transgression and take away mine iniquity?
For now shall I lie down in the dust, and thou shalt seek me early, and I shall not die.
I want to speak not specifically about the troubles of certain people, but I hope that from my heart I can speak of something that touches your heart. There are circumstances that each one of us go through in everyday living, in raising families and seeing those children grow up, that I can express some of those experiences with one word. Excruciating.
Painful.
And the feeling of the heart is as is expressed.
In that verse.
Let me how long will thou not look away from me, nor let me alone, till I swallow down my spittle?
There are circumstances that we long for, and that's what I say. It's like an Amen to what our brother has said. But there are circumstances in I know, even though I may not know your name, never met you before, I know that there are circumstances in your life. I know a brother here and I could mention him by name. He was recently out of work. I was out of work for two years. When I heard that that brother was out of work, there was something that went click.
In my heart because of the experience that I had had.
Did I say ho hum? I'm not going to pray for him. And you know, there's another verse.
We speak of the truth of the one body. There is an application of the truth of the one body that says in the 12Th chapter of one Corinthians that says having the same care one for another. Do we in the assembly have that same care one for another? Well, if I don't, I believe that part of the experiences that God is placing us through.
Day by day.
Is to produce that effect of having my heart conformed to the image of his son. My behavior pattern, you know, I can say, and if you don't know, I'm willing to tell you. And if you knew, you don't need to be told. But I'm a Jacobson. And so that connotes to me as an insider certain things that I wish you not to know. And if your name is such that you know because of that family trait.
That there are certain things that go with that name that you wouldn't want me to know. That's what I'm speaking about. I'm speaking that God wants each of us. Now what is it?
It's a beautiful, beautiful thought that God has put the members in the body as it has pleased him.
And yet everyone of them he wants to exhibit the graces of Christ.
And yet we are each different. And I will tell you two stories. I haven't much more, though. This is a deep and wide subject. I want to tell two stories, one about Brother X. We in the Pittsburgh Assembly had sent funds to show fellowship in Kingsworth his work of the Lord. Our brother, Scott Scott Brinkmeyer received the letter. He read it. I want to get it from him, and I want to make a Xerox copy of it and I want to keep it in my my records. And here's in essence, what the letter said. We're not telling who it was from.
But in essence, the brother said this. For years I've ministered the Word, but in recent years I have seen the importance that God is placing upon the effect of that word in my heart.
I respect that Brother's ministry and I respect what he said.
In that letter, I'm not going to tell you who it was. That's not necessary, but whatever we may have in an assembly.
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And you are going on in your daily life. You know, it's a marvelous thing to be transparent. Transparent before God, transparent before my wife, transparent before my brethren. If there's anything that I longed for that I would like to convey to you as my brethren, is the desire to be what you are.
If I'm not a gospel preacher, you know, I accept those that are. But I want to tell you something about John Kemp, which all of us would accept as being certainly an evangelist at the Halifax conference. I came in a little early to the reading meeting and he was sitting there reading a book and I figured it was his business and not mine, what book he was reading. But he called me into his, into his thoughts, and he said, I'm reading a book by William Kelly on the New Testament doctrine of the Holy Spirit.
But his next point was very embarrassing, he said. Have you read it?
And I gave some weasel words, like I've skimmed through it. And he said, you know, Brother Hayhoe once said, and then he quoted what Brother Hayhoe had said about that book. Now, John Kemp is a gospel preacher, we'd say. You'd never think that he would read a book about the the New Testament doctrine of the Holy Spirit, you know?
My esteem, my thought to that dear brother were already high, but they went up and there's a brother that though he's a gospel minded man.
He is taking in.
These things and so how important to accept from one another. But to be transparent, if I'm not a teacher, you can still add something. But you know all that transparency before God, that God wants us. That's the first thing not to fall. Now I'm going to tell you another story. I used to work for the Boeing Company in Seattle.
During the 60s, they had the supersonic transport program and in thought I want you to go with this is an actual fact that I did this. But in thought at this time I want you to go with into the developmental center along airport. Mr. Lundeen and Mrs. Lundin are familiar with that area, the developmental center, and I went to go down into an area that they've reserved for the heat treater.
Aluminum is to the present airplane and the past airplane as titanium was going to be to the supersonic transport. They needed to know a lot about its its properties and various things. So here's what they did. They would tell this man that we want you to put this particular piece of titanium into the oven. Now notice the different ways in which he could heat treat that particular piece of titanium. But he was told exactly what to do and the divine.
Heat treater knows exactly.
What you and I need to produce the effect that God wants in my life and yours. You can put it into a hot furnace.
And then raise the temperature from there. You can put it into a cold furnace and you can raise it at 100° a minute or 200° and you can see that it's going to produce a different effect. You take that and plunge it into a hot furnace. It's at 2000°. And now as you take it out, you can take it out quickly and plunge it into water. You can take it out quickly and just let it air cool. So now you have a water cool.
An air cool or you can turn the switch on the furnace and the temperature starts going down slowly controlled. See, see what I'm trying to say that you and I in the school of God, in everyday circumstances are being put through circumstances that are exactly what the heat treater, the divine heat treater knows is needed to get rid of or to produce an effect in our lives that God desires to use.
Another step because of the intensity of the furnace.
That that piece of titanium is in it needs to be grit blasted.
Pressure behind sand, if you will, and it removes the scale. Sometimes we say, Lord, how much longer is the grit going to have to be used to remove the scale? But there is one more step. Some of us that have known these things know what a tiniest Olson machine is. It's a machine that takes a metal specimen and it puts it here and it puts it there and it starts to pull.
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And it sees whether the particular tensile strength or whatever, twisting or bending, they can put it under refrigeration, they can do various things to see whether the effect that is desired in that piece of metal has been produced.
Amazing.
How long will thou not depart from me, that thou should visit him every morning and try him every morning?
All things work together for good to them that love God. Now let's turn to 1St Corinthians 13 and let's pick out of there some of the negative thoughts that are in that chapter.
As an example of what God desires to do.
In your life and mine, in producing through circumstances.
There have been circumstances in my life which in the private of my den or my bedroom.
The lights out, I've said, Lord, that circumstance only showed out what my heart is capable of, and by the grace of God I want to get rid of it.
All right, now let's start with the fourth verse. Let's change the wording a little bit.
It says love suffereth long and is kind, but the natural tendency of my heart at least is to suffer long and be unkind.
I've taken so much from that brother. He's an antagonist. He talks too long. He's got a view that's always different. Have you ever heard that type of thing? Have you ever heard it in your heart? I've heard it in mine. There are brethren that at one time in my life I knew that I did not, but would not pray for him. Shameful, just absolutely shameful. Is that conformity to Christ? In my everyday life, I knew that, that the Lord was having the victory.
In my heart and life when I prayed for my brother.
Prayed for him. So if you willingly, knowingly refuse to pray, then what you're saying is love suffers long and is unkind. Now notice the rest of the verse. Envy.
Vaunting itself, puffing itself up, behaves itself unseemly, seeks her own, is easily provoked, Thinketh evil, rejoiceeth in iniquity, doesn't rejoice in the truth, bears nothing, doesn't believe anything, hopes for nothing, has no endurance. Love. Now we come to the effect that the circumstances of life.
Are the desire of the heart of God is to produce day by day all thou observer of men, to think that God cares for his children so much that he deals with them every day of their life.
My car is a certain kind and it has what they affectionately called.
Morning sickness.
The brakes don't want to work in the morning, but after a while, then they work. And I found out to my sorrow that $250 would fix that problem. And so I had to fix it. And So what did it do? It reduced my my my bank account by $250. But what was the attitude of mind and heart that God revealed? I come home at night and a favorite place for.
Things that are going to be put into the garbage is a sack underneath the sink. And I come home and I find that some of them have spilled over. And I make some relatively curtain and unkind comment to my wife. And she has the wisdom and the grace to recognize something. And so she says this.
What is it that's really bothering you? It's not that thing. What is it that's really bothering you? I wish that Wise weren't quite as discerning as they are.
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But in all honesty and thankfulness of heart, I have a father, and you have a father that is far more discerning than a wife. And he sees the tendencies. So according to Hebrews 4, he knows the thoughts and the intents of the heart. And God wants our intent. Is there pride?
I was having a real nice time again at Halifax conference this last May and sitting across from another brother whose name we won't divulge and all of a sudden.
Here's what he said. Stan is at heart for you, as it is for me to think of others as well as you do yourself.
I didn't think people usually came out and said that kind of thing, but what was he saying? He said he was finding it hard to esteem others better than himself.
Is it hard for you? Well, by God's grace, take the circumstances of your life. It may be a brother, and it's an amazing thing. If we had the time, we could turn to the first chapter of Numbers. There's a list of the of the leaders of each of the 12 tribes. Look up the meanings of their names. One of them means a brother of good. Another one means a brother of evil. There may be a circumstance that's allowed of God to test your heart that there's a brother in your assembly.
That is a little bit of a trial. And so God is allowing the circumstance of your life to produce something of the graces of Christ. Brethren, I'm through. That's what I had in my heart.
And I can say I want you to read between the lines. I want the lines to be, you know, two inches between, you know, so that you can put in the circumstances of your life, whatever they may be. And some of them are excruciating difficult. You wonder when are they going to be over? What is it? And all we can take, what Brother Lundin said, we can take the perspective of the 7th chapter of God working all things together for good.
And the good is that he wants us to be conformed to the image of his son.
So that those graces which he delighted in in his son are the delight of his heart as seen through his children.
Like to.
Also follow a thread of thought from Brother Mundine's meeting that.
Really enjoyed and share it with you those three men that were mentioned, Noah, Daniel and Job.
There were men, of course, of faith.
And faith, dear brethren, as we know, is something that is always based on the Word of God. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
Faith is something as well that is intensely individual.
It's relatively easy to outwardly.
Follow the Lord when there's a lot who feel the same way as you around.
But to follow.
What scripture says when there's no one else around is the real test.
Whether there is faith that is God-given faith in our hearts?
And there really comes as a challenge to me in the days in which we live, dear brethren.
Ezekiel lived in a time when.
Judah's testimony at Jerusalem was.
At an end.
And it was shortly after I believe that.
They were carried away to Babylon.
And so we're living in a day ourselves in which.
The public testimony to the truth that there is one body.
Is in ruins, brother. It's in ruins.
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And when I'm speaking now, the testimony, I'm Speaking of the Lord's people in general, not focusing in on any particular group.
But Speaking of the public testimony of all those.
Who are members of Christ's body?
And I think it is something that really challenges each one of us.
As to what our thoughts are and I'd just like to enjoy from the book of First Corinthians.
A couple of thoughts first as to the unity of the body of Christ. First Corinthians chapter 12, our brother.
Spoke before me mentioned a couple of verses from this chapter, but it seems so intensely important to hold this not merely as a doctrine, but to hold it as a practical reality.
First Corinthians chapter 12 and verse 12.
For as the body is one.
And half many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body. So also is Christ.
For by 1 Spirit are we all baptized into one?
Body.
Whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one spirit.
In the first chapter, First Corinthians, we know that there was.
Division in Corinth still, even though that was the outward state of things in Corinth, Paul says here. And I think it's something that faith must lay hold of. Remember, it's individual. You and I are going to be tested individually as to whether we really, truly believe this.
For as the body is 1 Isn't that beautiful, brethren? Nothing can ever, ever change that truth. Division may have entered the public testimony, and it has.
People coming from a heathen country to this land.
And saying that it is a Christian land and looking up and down the streets of the different cities.
They will not see this testimony that the body is one.
No, the testimony is an outward ruin.
But the truth remains, brethren, the body is one.
And even in outward ruin, we have to thank God's thoughts because faith is grounded on God's thoughts. That's what marked those men in the Old Testament that were spoken of.
Noah, Daniel and Job, even though it cost them something to bring them around to that point as it costs us something.
Perhaps to be brought around to that point as well. Still, faith is accepting God's thoughts. The body is one. There is no more than one body. And as God looks down into this world and he contemplates his redeemed people, he says there is one body.
Beautiful, precious truth. Oh dear brethren, it's one of the things that characterizes this dispensation in which we live, that the Lord Jesus is a living man in the glory of God, and the Spirit of God is a person of the Godhead down here in this world, uniting all believers in one body and uniting them to the head in heaven.
For as much as I have failed in the outward testimony, for as much as we have failed in the outward testimony, the truth remains. There is one body or to lay hold of, so that it would affect us practically. Because, brethren, if we do not hold the truth practically, we do not have it.
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We may say we have it, but it has always been the case in the history of God's people.
That the practices slipped and then little by little the very doctrine or teaching of the truth slips as well. The Lord stir our hearts. This be a living reality. Every member, every believer on the face of the earth is united in one body in Christ. Not saying I see eye to eye to every member of the body of Christ. I'm not saying that at all.
But I'm Speaking of God's thoughts here, of what he says is true. There is one body, and if I meet during the course of my life, during the week, some believer on the street of the town where I live.
That should be my thought, the response of my heart.
Another member of Christ's body. My thought in love should be.
To seek his welfare in whatever way I possibly can.
That should be my practical reaction.
As I meet with believers, realizing that they too are members of Christ's body.
But I'd like to say another thing here that I think needs to be distinguished, like to turn back to that first chapter, First Corinthians.
And the.
10th verse. And Paul begins this epistle to the Corinthians.
This seems to be one of the first things that he corrects in that epistle, or in that.
Assembly at Corinth is the question of divisions, but I just want to point out something that is simple here in verse 10. Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
That ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions.
Among you, but there ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind.
And in the same judgment, for it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren.
By them which are of the House of ploy, that there are contentions among you. Now this I say that every one of you saith, I am appalled, and I have Apollos and I have Cephas, and I have Christ. Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you, or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? Just like to point out in that verse 10. Notice when he speaks of divisions.
He does not say that there be no divisions in the body of Christ.
Because, brethren, the body of Christ cannot be divided.
Never has been. It is gloriously won in the eyes of God.
And that we are called to share God's thoughts as to His redeemed people in this world.
The body is one division. Has it entered? Yes, division has entered, but where?
Among you, we who are the responsible ones to carry the testimony.
The outward visible testimony to the truth that there is one body amongst us responsibly, in an outward way, division has entered.
And notice in verse the end of verse 11 Contentions.
Among you notice another verse in Chapter 11.
Of this same epistle, First Corinthians Chapter 11.
And verse.
18.
But for first of all, when you come together in the church.
I hear that there be divisions among you, and I partly believe it.
There's that same expression, divisions among you. The division has not entered into the body of Christ, brethren.
It has entered into the outward visible testimony to the truth that there is one body.
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The vision has entered there and that's why, as we say, if a heathen person comes.
From a foreign land to this country, knowing that it is a so-called.
Christian country What kind of testimony would they have as they walked down the streets and meet people who profess to be Christians?
It would not be a testimony to the truth that the body is one.
I just wanted to make this point real clear. I think it's really important, especially for those who are younger. I know for myself I didn't understand this point when people would speak of the ruin, exactly what they meant.
But first of all, the truth of God is the body.
Is 1. Nothing can ever change that truth. It was one from the day of Pentecost.
When the Spirit of God came down to indwell those about 120 believers.
And instead of being merely 120 individual believers.
They became one in Christ through the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
And then God began adding more to the church, such as should be saved.
And today the same is true. There is one body, the same truth we have in Ephesians chapter 4 and verse four. There is one body. Nothing can change that truth, brethren, that's God's word, that's God's side of the matter. But when we come to the other side, when we talk about divisions that comes in amongst us, we who are.
Responsible to carry the outward testimony to that truth, that there is one body.
Division has come in, brethren, we cannot deny it.
And what is our attitude and my desire this afternoon in the few remaining moments?
Is to take up, dear brethren, in view of the fact.
That our testimony has failed so miserably.
And I'm not Speaking of those gathered to the Lord's name only, brethren. I'm Speaking of all believers everywhere we have failed.
To show that we are one body in Christ.
What is our attitude? What is our testimony? What is our spirit?
To be in view of this.
Is it the attitude of?
Standing up and saying we've got to be faithful to God.
Yes, we ought to be faithful to God, brethren.
But what is the Spirit?
That should characterize believers in the Lord Jesus. In this age when there's so much contrary voices in those who profess to be, to belong to Christ, what is the Spirit that should characterize me? I'd like to go back to Luke's gospel for a couple of verses, few verses, Luke Chapter 9.
In verse.
49.
And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name.
And we forbade him, because he followed, not us, not with us.
And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not, for he that is not against us is for us.
And it came to pass when the time was come that he should be received up.
He steadfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, and sent messengers before his face, and they went and entered into a village of the Samaritans to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?
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Even as Elias did. But he turned and rebuked them and said.
Ye know not what spirit you know, not what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
Just a couple of things we want to notice here, dear brethren. First of all, I think I see in my own heart what I see in these disciples.
Here.
I cannot isolate myself, dear brother, from it. This is my heart, the true reflection of it right here.
They saw somebody casting out demons in the name of the Lord and he says he follows, not us.
What was the Lord's response to that? He says do not forbid Him. He that is not against us is for us.
Do you notice that the point of reference of the disciples was?
He follows, not us. That's why they forbade him.
Dear brethren, we need to have Christ as the.
Reference point, not us. So oftentimes, Speaking of the truth of the one body, it seems that we are the ones that are put forward. Brethren, that is not the reference point. The reference point is Christ. He is the center. He is the attraction. To be gathered to the name of the Lord Jesus means to be gathered.
Where He is in the midst, it's not us, it's Him.
Just the detail that I find reflected in my own heart, brethren.
Another matter here we find as they're going towards Jerusalem.
The Lord's face was to go to Jerusalem, and he approaches one of these cities of the Samaritans.
Samaritans and the Jews didn't have too much to do with each other. There were rival factions there in Palestine at that time. The Lord lived there, and when they saw that his face was to go to Jerusalem, they wouldn't receive him. They wouldn't receive the Lord Jesus.
And James and John.
In seeming zeal for the name of the Lord, said Lord, shall we call down fire, as Elijah did, and consume them?
And the Lord Jesus turns around.
And rebukes. They were zealous for the Lord.
Yes, they were. But what did he rebuke?
He said you don't know what spirit characterizes you. O brethren, when we get on these points, the very spirit of I'm right and you're wrong, the whole spirit of The thing is wrong to begin with, then the Lord is going to have to rebuke that to begin. The Lord preserve us from that type of a spirit.
Now that is perhaps negative. I'd like to go to three scriptures in the Old Testament.
That would show the kind of spirit that should characterize us.
As belonging to the Lord Jesus.
Psalm Chapter Psalm 51 first of all.
In verse 17.
Psalm 5117.
The sacrifices of God.
Are a.
Broken Spirit.
A broken and a contrite heart. O God, thou wilt not.
Despise.
Oh how this speaks to me, dear brother.
Sacrifices of God are a broken.
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Spirit.
Does it do anything to you, brother? Does it do anything to my heart?
As I view God's redeemed people so divided, so scattered as to public testimony.
Is there any brokenness in this heart of mine?
Do I feel God's thoughts about the matter?
The body is one.
But it should not only be a doctrine, brethren, it should be a reality.
And when we see the public testimony in such ruin.
Does it create a broken spirit in US? Don't you feel that it ought to?
Isaiah chapter 57.
I.
And verse 15.
For thus saith the high and lofty one that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is holy, I dwell in the high and holy place.
And with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble.
And to revive the heart of the contrite once.
The Lord is speaking.
He's the one who inhabits eternity.
In that high and lofty place.
There's another place.
With him also, that is of a contrite and humble spirit.
Oh, how this speaks to me. We're right down to the end, brethren. We're looking for the Lord to come at any moment. The truth is gloriously true. Even today. There is one body.
That the public testimony. Can I stand up and say I have been faithful and they have not?
Can I make myself a reference point in all the confusion that has come in?
And continues to come in. Can I make myself a reference point?
Far be the flat brother.
The Lord is with him.
Who is a contrite and humble spirit?
Isaiah 66.
Verse one.
Thus saith the Lord, the heaven is my throne.
And the earth is my footstool.
Where is the house that you will build unto me, and where is the place of my rest?
For all those things at mine, handmade, and all those things have been set, the Lord.
But to this man will I look even to him that is poor.
And of a chondrite spirit.
And that trembling.
At my word.
Well, these verses really speak to my own soul, dear brethren, may the Lord.
Give us that. We can go on in the simple truth of the fact.
That there is one body seeking even in failure, dear brethren.
To maintain whatever way we can.
In public testimony, the truth that there is one body, even though as a whole the testimony is in ruins, The Lord keep us not in a spirit of superiority in any way, shape or form.
In that spirit humbleness and of a contrite spirit.
And one who trembles at his Word. The Word of God has long lasting and effect in our hearts. May the Lord give us then, dear brethren, to value once again that glorious truth. The body is one. We are united to every other believer in the Lord Jesus Christ by 1 Spirit.
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To Christ the head in heaven. It's gloriously true today. Just as well it was on Pentecost.
Gloriously true. But the testimony we have failed. It's in ruins.
Now, what is the spirit that I carry as I go on through these last days of the history of the church in this world? What kind of a spirit? Is it a spirit that the Lord will have to reprove, or is it a spirit?
That is broken, humble and contrite.