Q&A
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Before we start the questions, I just want to say that we have a lot of questions and thank you for so many good questions. We're going to have to move through them fairly quickly, so we don't want to spend a lot of time on one question.
But we don't want to shortchange.
The question either, so we'll do the best we can to move along.
The first question.
Will anybody be sent alive into hell before the Great White Throne of Justice?
We know from Revelation that.
All the dead, small and great, will be raised up to stand before the Great White Throne.
But the question is about.
Will anybody be thrown into hell before they die?
It would probably be good to distinguish that. Hell, that word in the Greek is 80s.
It is the temporary above of the soul and spirit until that judgment of the Great White Throne.
Probably this. Instead of hell it should be the lake of fire and there are two that are thrown into the lake of fire at the end of the great tribulation if you go to Revelation chapter 19.
And we have one of the battles that takes place at the beginning.
Of the great fibrillation, that's between the piece that we were hearing about last night and the head of the revived Roman Empire and the Antichrist, which is called here the false prophet. And they, they come out to do war against the Lord.
Verse 19 of chapter 19 I saw the beast and the kings of the earth, those king 10 kings that support him.
Gather together to make war against him that sat on the horse, that's the Lord Jesus, and against his army, and the beast who's taken, and with him the false prophet that rod miracles before him with which he had deceived them, that had received the mark of the beast.
Them that worship this image is both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. So that's the lake of fire is the eternal abode of the lost.
So hell is used in Scripture as the temporary place where a person without Christ goes, as we have in Luke chapter 16. The rich man died and was buried and in hell he lifted up his eyes. That's the temporary place until the judgment of the great white throne. That rich man is going to be resurrected at the great white Jones grown judgment.
In hell now, but he will be then cast into the lake of fire.
Yes. Will there be any others?
Besides those two.
Go ahead.
I think there will be. If I understand rightly, Joshua was mentioning in Matthew 25 last night about the sheep and the goats.
We go back there.
End of Matthew 25 verse.
In verses 44 and 45 and speaks about what the sentence is, the judgment on the votes. There are those who did not receive the messengers of the gospel, the Kingdom in that day. And it says in verse 46, these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal. So I take it they too would be put there.
Is that how you feel, brother?
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I.
You know when you see a person who dies have unsafe, you say he's gone into everlasting punishment.
It doesn't really set a time frame. And I've wondered about that. Honestly, I don't stay out of that clear about it, whether these are dispatched and then are resurrected, because the judgement here in Matthew 25 is based, like Josh said last time, on how they treat the messengers of the Kingdom.
Say that their whole lives were opened up, and I wonder if they will be less erected at that great white community. Give account of their whole life. You know that will happen at some junction as it happened here. That's what's not clear.
In that case, they'll be sent alive into hell.
OK.
Into hell or into the Lake of fire?
Well, the brothers Bob is saying it would be into hell to be raised again, to be judged for their sins. I don't say that what I say.
I just have to consider it.
That just seems to say.
All I can say is what it says here is to the process by which they end and everlasting function and I don't know what's going on.
There's a verse in Revelation 20 which may be a little help in clarifying it.
Verse 10 of Revelation 20.
Says the devil then deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are.
They we saw that they were cast there in the previous chapter.
20 It doesn't mention anyone else at that point. And this, of course, is the great White Throne judgment at the.
End of the Millennium, so no one else has mentioned there. Doesn't mean necessarily that there's no one else there, but it is interesting that these two are mentioned as being there.
I guess the Spirit of God wanted us to know there are more there. He would have said plus over each other. So it just mentioned those mentions, those two.
So there's a lot we don't know, isn't there?
OK, question #2.
Can you talk about how women or girls in the church body of Christ should dress? I feel like some women are dressing like women in the world.
In First Timothy 2 verse 9.
First it starts in verse 8 about the men praying everywhere, lifting up holy hands, which means they need to have a holy godly life. Well, the women also need to have a holy godly life. In verse nine, in like manner also the women adorn themselves.
In modest apparel with shame face innocence of rising not avoided hair, gold, pearls.
For business array, but which becometh women professing godliness with good works and so on.
So it it talks about modest apparel and I think the men need to have modest apparel as well. I.
Women need to be careful. God's created them with beautiful bodies and curves and and if we're coming into the presence of the Lord and our closing is manifesting our physical attributes.
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Then that's a distraction and.
If you're at the beach, you're going to wear different clothing than what you would wear.
At your.
At your dinner table or if you're going to visit somebody in their home.
And you might wear something different when you come to meeting. We're not under laws to what we're to wear. It just says we should have modest apparel.
I'm not going to go up and down the road and say you're modest, you can stay in the meeting. You're not. And you got to go out and and one by one, no, it's not.
It's to some extent it is my responsibility because my camp as to what people wear and don't wear, but.
It's not really the man's responsibility to.
So the women, it's really the responsibility of the older women to talk to the younger women.
Of the heart because we don't buy a piece of cloth or if we buy it, we have it in the closet. When we pick up something it has to have a specific reason if it's cold outside and put something work so we always have a specific visa and if that reason.
The reflects on that state of the heart, that's where it comes from. It has to do with the body of the heart when it feels happy for us.
I find it interesting to see in Genesis chapter 3 when the sin entered into the world, what God did for out of the need.
It's this converse that our Genesis 321.
Adam also, and to his wife with the Lord God made cooks of skins and clothes them.
To recover them.
That's important.
In a world like we live in.
I don't know that girls realize that sometimes when they dress scantily.
They can sight looks that are not profit and that's why I think, like you say to him, that the older women should get help to the younger women.
I must say that all times, the way a girl or a woman dresses in the meeting.
Is a distraction.
And I can't concentrate like I would like to because of.
The lack of covering, so just with that out, I think that's important. God gave clothing to man and woman to cover themselves. He was to be just for Adam, not for anybody else.
And so you really believe there is one companion for you? Don't get yourself out into common view of everything.
When you dress scandal.
So it's important to cover.
The Darby translation in that verse in.
Verse Timothy 2 is a little helpful there. Shamefacedness is.
I'm not sure I can describe what that really means, but.
I'll read it in the new translation. There will therefore that.
Black men are also the women in this decent department.
Dress during themselves with modesty and discretion.
Discretion, it's interesting and I change I think there.
Discretion means you put a little thought into it and.
How's it going to How are they going to look at me this way? Bob is pointing out. Can be a great distraction. But.
Nice, have a little discretion.
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Others may have a better definition of modesty, but I think of it as.
Hearing so is the show off what what one has for the purpose of drawing attention so and I think you can see it in this chapter the 1St that was referenced that it's not.
Not only the physical form, but it's also well, obviously I think we think back on the days in which all is right. The ticket later was there was not not a huge metal blast. There was a lot of very wealthy and a lot of very important.
And it was not a lot of very low, very wealthy and a lot of very, but the, there was a possibility that some would flop their wealth in front of others through expensive clothing and jewelry and so on. So that's another form of immodesty. But certainly it's it's, it's been brought up to show off.
The form is another type of commodity, but.
As our brother was mentioning.
The world doesn't have the same.
Principles that the Christian has and so the question asks how how women.
In the world, Women in the church dressing like women in the world.
They've really, it really depends on on the case and what was meant by women in the world, but very often in the context of the verses that have been presented, women in the world.
Who are safe?
Don't have the new nature. And so very often they're governed by the lust of the flesh. And one of that, one of those.
Desires of the questions to have the attention of others.
So that could lead to immodesty, whether it's showing off our body, whether it's showing off our wealth or our connections, probably other forms of it.
So as a believer, it should be nothing but Christ.
Not trying to draw attention to ourselves and.
Show off what we've had.
So I think it's it really does come down to as our brother mentioned, the motive of the heart, but the Christian has a motive that the people of this world government.
And that's what makes a whole difference.
It's interesting to me and both.
Timothy 2 and in First Peter 3 Scripture says that women should adorn themselves.
That's interesting because sometimes people think that we are against that. You know, the woman should adorn themselves. Notice what it's with. And First Timothy 2 it says.
In verse 10, but which becomes women professing godliness with with worse.
And there are some.
Without her there to serve. I think that's so beautiful. See, and young women at first Peter 3. The adornment is the ornament of a meat and quiet spirit, which is the sight of God, of request. Beautiful, beautiful Hornets that a woman should adorn themselves with, not outward, but inward.
Difficult when we take up questions like this because we don't know exactly where the person who's asking the questions coming from.
We don't know what their idea of the world is.
And so we look in our society and there is a culture and that culture has a standard of stress. And you go to a department store and you have that standard address to deal with the purchase.
And if we were to look at this very legalistically, this question, you could say, well, you can't buy anything that the world felt like we would look like the world.
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And we need to make our own clothes. Maybe we need to make it like super extreme going the opposite way, which in fact would offend us very picking up the first decade.
It would be in August.
So we need to make sure that in our application of this, we don't go beyond what is, we don't go beyond structure. And our brother pointed out that earlier is oftentimes a question of the heart. And as we all know in our life, there is a process, right? We are we are changing from glory to glory.
And.
It's not to excuse sin, not to excuse and honesty. Where that needs to be addressed, needs to be addressed, but we need to make sure that we don't judge by our standard, a standard that is not given in Scripture specifically for a doctrine. We need to make sure that we don't go beyond.
And require everyone else to meet our standard. Whatever that standard is, however, changes for life. That's reality.
Do we need to be interested in what Scripture says as modesty? Absolutely. Whether one extreme or the other, we do be interested in what Scripture said structure costs about modesty. But how we apply those things, how we apply the conform to this world from these twelve, one and two, those are personal exercises.
We take my personal exercise and I push it on somebody else and I say you are offending that because I see it this way. You can get into a real trouble, so you need to be careful about that as well.
Just a little antidote.
Going Assembly, California.
There was a young lady that came in the Celtics meeting and.
It was, it was kind of interesting.
And it's that now, and one of the.
She's probably one of the oldest women in the something there at the moment.
And there happened to be a shawl and she brought the shawl over two young ladies and oh sweetheart, you're going to be really chilly and help your dreams over your shoulders and.
Very, very active, I remember that.
But you know, there's there's grace.
This is not so this.
Still is a. It was obviously something I remember.
Gracious with handling the fishing.
Our next question.
What are biblically correct steps to take when there is emotional or physical abuse in a Christian marriage?
That's a tough one.
That's account for divorce if somebody is going to let these people because the Bible is based receiving what gossip is a ground over divorce.
For the emotional part, I think that's a very clear area and varies from one person to another how they interpret that emotional part.
In case of a drastic physical abuse, I think there is ground for separation in order to protect the flight for the children.
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But separation is different than the words.
Suppose there's different ways we could try to answer the question.
So different the different parties involved.
One would be the one who is suffering the abuse, another would be the one who's.
Abusing.
Another would be.
The assembly, if it becomes known another would be any other Christians who know about it would seek to be a help. You might address it a little different from each one of those viewpoints, I would think.
As far as correct steps.
I don't know that I could.
Do any correct steps? Because the case is different but those steps must be taken.
Very, very carefully.
With a lot of prayer.
A lot of dependence on the Lord.
And no doubt with a lot of tears shed.
Steps. I believe that's going to when you get off and they do correct steps perhaps.
Yeah. I think that's really helpful, Roger.
If it's from the outside, my experience is it's very, very difficult to know what the truth is.
And the scripture is clear that we need to have every matter established in the mouth of two or three witnesses. And that's one reason why this is so particularly difficult. You get 2 witnesses oftentimes that they don't agree on what they're saying. And it can be difficult to know how to do that. And that's step of what you're saying is vital.
That should be a lot of prayer living on the Lord is to.
The right thing to do and the real pair to not safe size but really just discern what's happening.
As to the one who's abusing, that's clear enough. I mean, it's just nothing like Christ, is it?
I don't think that's a hard case, but the hardest case might be the one who's suffering and.
That is just a very, very difficult thing to deal with how that one reaches out. But the one thing that's clear, I think, is they need to do the as the first step. What you said as well, shouldn't they? The one who's suffering needs to take it to the Lord first.
Sometimes I don't know that that's what happens.
It's easy whenever I get into trouble, not this, but if I get into trouble, whatever it is, I go looking for help and I don't make the Lord the first stop. I, I just tell you that's what happens. And, and I, I feel so ashamed about that later on. But we need to think about that. The Lord needs to be the first place to go to and he is able for these things. He's able to.
Put an end to it. He's able to give strength for it.
And I'm not saying that's where it ends. I don't.
Think that would be the case. The Lord uses others to help and.
So many cases, but that does need to be the first time what you're saying just get down really prayerfully before the Lord about that matter.
I like to give a few scriptures just to consider as principle. Like you say Raj is not steps exactly but principles because every case is different.
We were created in adversity. We go back there.
And verse one.
Likewise your wives.
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In subjection to your own husbands, that if any obey not the word, there were cases where life would have a husband that was not a believer. And of course there would be those kind of things and those kind of marriages that they also without the word, may be won by the conversation for the matter of life.
Of the wise while they behold your teeth conversation.
Gobbled with fear.
Always remember the case it will hack in Mexico of a.
Sister that I came to the meetings and her husband was not a believer.
And she saved her own other children all day, and her shoulders were bruised from the paintings she got from her husband.
He said to her.
Go back and cook his meals even better than you did before.
And make sure you do is.
Clothes and laundry very well.
And when you have a chance to invite them to come and hear the gospel.
You know what she did that. I don't know how much more she had to take, but it wasn't too long before her husband came in. Heard the gospel was safe.
Assassin is not what is commonly thought of proper in our culture, but there are cases in which women have won their husbands in that way. That's the case the way I sister that has a husband that is not a believer. Now we hope that a real believer would.
Not.
Do emotional or physical abuse.
If there's a person.
Titus that I would like to give that I think helps. And like I say, it's just a not exactly a step, but it's a principle. Titus Chapter 2 and Titus is told to exhort the older women and then the youngsters. Yeah, the the older wolf. I'm sorry, First of all, he exhorts the older men.
And then the older women in verse after two in verse 3.
The age of it says you're the older women likewise that they need to behavior has become holiness, not false accusers not given too much wine teachers and good things 100 and plus to teach in this case, yes.
That they may teach the young women to be slaughtered to love their husbands not afterward. Love is not agape love that we enter to love our wives with. It's the female love. It's interesting so love their children get in the street, chase keepers at home, good obedient to their own husbands. The word of God be not blessed me and other words the older women.
Were to take the lead in the teaching of the younger women how to react and so often when a young woman gets married.
She really doesn't know how to handle certain situations in early married life, and I think that is so helpful when there is confidence in an older sister that there can be help and counsel given in those situations. And if there is emotional or physical abuse, then the older sister will become aware of it as well because it's a very delicate country like you said.
So I just suggest that as a principle to be considered.
When the volcano real believers.
There is in scriptures. Given that they are both believers in the Lord Jesus, I would say that there is a principle in Matthews Gospel in chapter 5.
And it's in connection with personal offense.
And our emotional or physical abuse could be taken in that way since they are both believers.
Notice it says in verse 23 of Matthew 5. Therefore, without bring life yes to the altar and there remember us that thy brother or could be sister as well half odd against state so a man is abusing his.
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The wife in a certain way.
I need to remember so I didn't treat my wife very well.
Leave thy gift before the altar and go that way. First be reconciled with my brother, thy sister, and then come and offer thy gift. In other words.
He comes to the Lord's table and those things have happened in our life. We need to reflect, we need to invest, Scripture says in First Corinthians 11. Judge ourselves.
What happened this last week?
So I had that.
Strong words of my life and I think I wounded her. There should be that reflection and judgment of yourself.
There's one other in Matthew chapter.
18.
Deals with personal offense.
Verse 15.
Or over thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone.
That he shall hear thee thou hast gave thy brother. But if you will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more of that. In the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
You shall neglect to hear them tell it unto the Church that, but if you neglect to hear the Church, let it be unto thee. Isn't he the man in the public? And I understand that this is to be taken the context of assembly, because when it comes to the Church, but I think there are principles there that where there's personal events.
What to do and the Lord can give you direction. So I just suggested as some principles. How they may apply or not apply I understand, but I just present them to consider.
When it gets to the point where it does come to the church.
First Timothy Chapter 3 we see the qualifications of an overseer, an elder in the assembly.
First Timothy, chapter 3.
Verse 2A Bishop then must be blameless the.
Husband of one wife. He must have a wife.
Only one life, but he must have a life.
And he must have children.
The husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, have to teach, not given to wine, No striker, not greedy, of filthy lucre, but patient, not a brawler and not covetous. Verse four, one that rules his.
Rules rule of well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity, but we know that children.
The you have friction in the home because of the children, because the children, they fight with one another, they take their, their, their brother or sisters toy and they tease them and, and the father needs and the parents need to know how to act and to settle disputes with the children. That's the, the the home is a training ground for the assessment.
And so that's why the requirement for an overseer is to have. I know some people say they're not requirements, but.
Their standards that God gives for a man who's going to be in a position of oversight as an example to others. So he needs to have a his home and water able to control his children, able to teach them the way of God and and have a good relationship with his wife.
All this so important because sometimes when there's abuse in someone elses marriage, they need to go and talk to them. Guess the overseer needs to have an exemplary life and an exemplary family and and so he and his wife can go and speak to the husband and wife and you don't want the man going speaking to the other woman just by themselves. So that's why God.
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Wants them to have one wife so they can go.
And together and so they can counsel the the the person who has been hurt and abused. And they need to have the wisdom of God to be able to know how to answer. We're not used to dealing with such things. And so we can only get our wisdom from the Lord. And as our brother Adu saying, if we look at First Corinthians Chapter 7.
Sometimes separation is necessary when there's abuse.
Sometimes abuse goes beyond personal offense and there needs to be some other further action. And so in verse First Corinthians Chapter 7.
And verse 11.
Ten I command unto the Mary that command, not yet, not I with the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband. But sometimes there are situations but and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband. God wants reconciliation.
Sometimes that reconciliation can't come unless the person has changed, has repented.
And and.
And so there are there are cases when there needs to be separation for protection for the wife or the children and.
This, this is a real call to the young men and women before they're married, because sometimes.
A man is not able to control his emotions, he's not able to control his actions. And if he takes that lack of control into a marriage, there's going to be lack of control in the marriage. So it's good to get yourself.
Checked out by God? Check yourself out with God.
Examine yourself and correct those things before you enter into marriage.
One time when I was 10, my younger sister and I got into an argument and then she started to talk me and said something like hippie, hippie. And I remember weekly hitting her and my father coming to me and saying you never do that and.
You never do. You cross the line which cannot be crossed. And so often I've read a book by a man who's a Christian who does this for a living, and he said one of the mistakes that the church makes is.
Taking a situation where there's abuse and saying that the answer is this marital counseling. And he said that's just another opportunity for abuse until abuse is acknowledged for what it is, a boundary that's been crossed.
There's no excuse. There's no anger. You know, I can't control my anger. I can't control it. There's a boundary that's been crossed and that needs to be acknowledged first before things can be need to confess the sin for what it is in that sin.
Or going onwards.
I've heard it said that the assembly should not get involved in the cares of a relationship because it always ends in disaster.
And we take that same thought with adultery.
Do we say we don't get involved because it's going to end in disaster now we say that's it and we have to deal with it. If we look at First Corinthians chapter 5 in regards to what the assemblies ultimate position and this question may come to, obviously there should be all these steps that they're taking before we look at the new translation. It says in verse 11, and I have written to you if anyone.
Call the brother the fornicator.
Or there are there new patients right now there or abusive, abusive.
In our translation that says railroad, but it's just abusive.
Somebody who is abused.
The assembly is responsible for the assembly, not just when we're assembled as we assembled. And if there's somebody who is abusive, who's going on in unjust skin, which is the context of this chapter.
Unjudged sin.
It needs to be done. It's not just a matter of being a husband and a wife. Yes, we need to make sure that all these other steps are followed. We should just rush in and we need to make sure that we understand the situation. I'm talking about the ultimate of you suspend been confirmed and the husband or wife is saying that's not sin, I'm justified, it is righteous anger or whatever. I think it needs to be dealt with. It's abuse, it's sentence.
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If you go further down in chapter 5.
It brings us to our next question.
1St Corinthians 5 talks about not keeping company eating with certain people who are Christians but act in a different way.
Are there any exceptions to this example if the person is family or if you think the person needs help in some way?
I don't think the question is very clear because a bad word is different.
Person can be different in all different ways.
This week you find that.
I think what they meant is a different way from a Christian.
I don't know that that was the point of the question, at least not the way I took it. So that those are great sins they have to put be put away for I assume the person asking the question is not questioning that part, but this one was legitimately put away for being a wicked person given that fact.
Are there exceptions to what it says in dealing with military?
Are there cases whereby we wouldn't necessarily?
Put them entirely away out of our fellowship and.
Think that's what's meant.
Yeah.
And I do think there are exceptions.
I don't know why all of them would be the one that I can think of as in First Timothy 5.
Says if any provide not for his own, especially those of his own house. He have denied the faith and is worse than infidel. And so private child in the home is at the Lords table and has to be put away as you have the 1St Corinthians 5.
And then I still have her responsibility to provide for my child.
And.
Yet I think there's something.
That needs to be different. I don't treat that child as if everything is OK, because it's not. But in this case, there's another verse that shows that I have a responsibility to continue on, to provide in some way for that child, and I need to do it. If it's not my child, I would act differently.
So I understand that. So I just suggest that is at least one.
Case where there would be maybe a little bit different action taken towards one, it was put away.
I think it's good to distinguish that way. There is.
The responsibility and the assembly. There's responsibility in the home and there are two different circles that God is the opera and gives us instruction for. And I suggest that verse in Leviticus chapter 21.
That they show this.
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Chapter 21 Verse One from the Lord faith said unto Moses, unto the praise the sons of Aaron, and said to them, There shall none be defiled from the dead among these people, but for his skin that is near unto him, that is for his mother, for his father, for his son.
For his daughter, for his brother, and for his sister. Virgin, that is nice to him.
Which have had no husband for her. May he be defiled.
This is interesting. Is the priest that's talking about?
And there was one exception that could be defiled in case of a year again. And I think that goes along with what you say and.
So that person has to realize it does say you shall be filed and so you need to be careful like like you say no treatment exactly the same.
Another case might be one flash husband and wife. Well, God is joined together, let not man part asunder.
I don't personally see how the husband or the wife could refuse to eat with the other if they if they're put away.
So there are these cases that we have.
Different spheres where I think it would be an exception.
Thank you, Jasmine, this last night.
We need to be really careful.
Somebody is under.
Discipline.
Not to mess with what God is doing.
So I guess that totally.
Clear where that volume is at, so I'll just make that between.
Thank you. Tim was put away from the assembly and I would love you and they're all glad and I wasn't a flat tire. I think it'd be alright stuff.
But to go over to 10,000.
Play the game, Chef.
Try to make it like it isn't a problem.
Desperate because we can.
Mess up the exercise of soul that God is trying to put a person through.
And that will tell you personally, I think that there have been times that I'm guilty of.
Going to.
Help somebody out in a way that was.
So I do think that are there a substance, it just need to be really careful.
The next question may take a little more time than we have, so we'll go to the question asked for the next question.
Can we ever understand the entirety?
Of God's flow.
Maybe you should read the versions that they have mentioned there. Ephesians 319.
And to know the love of Christ, which passes knowledge, that she might be filled with all the fullness.
Gov.
We can know a little bit of the love of God, and I think we'll be learning about it more all throughout Insurgency.
It passes knowledge.
So we can know a little bit of the love of God. We can enjoy the next question. The next verse is First Corinthians 216.
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For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
So can we ever understand the entirety of God's love?
The verse in Ephesians 319 is really interesting to have a follow up question.
In verse 1718 he says we that we may be able to comprehend with all faith the Bradley doesn't height and to know the love of Christ.
Which would assume you can go to the love of Christ.
But then the next verse, maybe This is why the question was that the next clause says capacity knowledge. So how can you know something that.
That is, how can you know of Christ? But it also passes our knowledge. Seems like oxymoron.
I enjoy.
That word comprehend in the game chances in Darby is African.
Somebody in the simple way illustrated it.
For me this way, he says. You go out to a small tree and you can put your arms all the way around. That's concrete.
But I come up to a huge folk and I can't get my arms very far around it. I have apprehended it, I haven't comprehended and I think that that is the word that issues there. It's interesting that it is two different things.
In a convention, Kyle and.
Verse 18 when it says to apprehend with falsehoods.
The breadth and length and depth and height, we apply that for the love of Christ, but I think that is greater than that. It's they all God's councils and ways.
And to know the love of Christ.
Which passes knowledge.
Pretty clear that it's not something we will. We will never be eternal beings in the way God is eternal. Yes we have eternal life but.
It will be wonderful. I think there is a time when knowledge will be complete, says the 1St that Corinthians chapter 13.
We know in part now.
But the time is coming when we will no longer know in heart.
But I don't know that we will ever know the entire.
I like Mr. Willis, Christopher Willis example on this, he said. One day this little girl came home and said, Daddy, I've seen the sea today.
Did she see the sea?
She didn't see this, the whole sea, But she saw the sea. She really did. That's God's love. We're not going to see all of it. It's way too vast, the love of Christ. But can we see it? We sure can. No. Wonderful. We'll never get to the end of it. We'll keep seeing it.
This is the prayer of the apostle of the 17th verse. He says that ye being brooded and grounded in love, he wants them to be rooted and grounded in love and verse 18 the way they rooted in grounded in love is to understand that Father said God.
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Dispensational ways, but his internal castle bar with Christ in the church. We might think of Christ in the Church of being like a more intellectual sign. That's not very practical. The last three chapters show that it's very, very practical. Then he goes on to the love of God. This is brought out also in Colossians chapter 2. Very similar.
That are coming out of Boston, it was just a head instead of the body and he says in verse two that their parts might be comforted again. Prayer was very conflict personally after you that there are parking might be comforting being knit together and love and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding to the acknowledgment of the necessary.
Dot com and as a father and Christ again bring in.
The number 72 in the appendix I got one one statement first mark.
To know the love of Christ which passes knowledge.
We know that the love of God is so great. We're not everyone understand the whole thing, but we know that love. We've been departing that love. So we know a little bit of it and we learn. Go ahead, Mark. What was that #72 in the appendix?
What were you going to say today?
One of the key parts to that first technician says to comprehend with all the things. I think that's important because I know like I can go. I've been on a trip by myself and I saw some beautiful scenes, but I was by myself. I couldn't share.
And that is like an adhesion.
And when we it's not individually our we are enjoying the love of Christ, but rather collectively. And that's like the remembrance and we share together as we comprehend. And I believe that's one of the greatest privileges that we have on this earth is to do that.
Maybe we can stand and sing #72 in Japan.
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Everyone.
Gracious Father.
Bless my precious word with that ball to end this evening.
Of such goodbye of by law.
Scripture tells us that thou art God.
Our blood, and so we will never be able to comprehend it at all, but we do apprehend in very measures.
And help us to do it.
If All Saints in the nation that we can and give thanks for this having time asking for blessing on my word.
Wherever it goes out Father today.
For lost souls and provide dear people. So we commend the rest of the day in black hands giving thanks, Father, that most wonderful name, our Lord Jesus Christ.