John 17

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Promise after thee, Now let us run.
Never tire 166.
Lord, thou hast brought.
Brought.
Away now let us grow and wherever tired.
Thy present.
Powerful our souls.
Our presence.
Take your heart, dear Lord. Sin can come.
In the heart.
In my Lords, and we are.
Thy gracious.
And you are living in heart to.
About verse 22.
Let's finish this chapter.
Thou hast loved me, Father, I will of thee also. Thou hast given thee, be with thee where I am, that they may behold my glory thou hast given to me.
Without Lovett be before the foundation of the world. Righteous, Father, the world has not known thee that I have known, and these have known that thou hast sent me. And I have declared I just have thy name, and will declare it the love, for with thou love thee may be exam I explain.
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Your souls are raptured by what we have. Thinking of being one with him and glory because that's what's presented to him. Seems we're one with human glory.
What an eternal day is that indeed expressing his will?
Verse 24.
Father, I will that they also thus given me, be with me where I am.
Maybe, Behold, my glory has given me.
Now, obviously.
Before the foundation of the world.
It's really astounding to see the grace of God that would do that over in First Thessalonians.
Or rather, Second Thessalonians.
Chapter One.
And verse 10.
When he shall come to be glorified in His Saints, and to be admired in all them that believe, because our testimony among you was believed in that day, there we have him coming out of heaven.
With those that will be to his glory. And then over in Revelation 21, I believe we see.
The church in that millennial setting, in answer to this desire.
Of the Lord Jesus.
In chapter 21 and verse 11, I believe we have it verse 10, he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain and showed me that holy city.
Jerusalem.
Descending out of heaven from God, having the glory of God. And then we see in that setting that she radiates that glory for all eternity, the holy City.
There would be a little difference between that glory of the 22nd.
And the.
24 When they're in this way that the glory that the Lord Jesus had received from the Father as a man, and which he had won in his glorious work, for the glory of the Father.
That is, given that we can enjoy, but the other one, the glory that we will see in the behold, in the glory that will be looked upon, we will look at that glory.
That's his own glory.
So the glory of verse 22 we will share. The glory of verse 24 we will behold but not share. That is his unique special.
That's really the highest privilege that we have is to not just share a glory which is an external thing, but to behold that special glory which he has.
The Spirit of God delights to occupy our hearts even now with those glories in Philippians 3 There or Second Corinthians 3 from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
It's another one of those I have given.
That we've enjoyed so much in this chapter.
Verse 24 The glory, though is a required glory, would be right to say, because he says that they may behold my glory which thou hast given me.
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In contrast to earlier in the chapter in verse five he says, And now, Oh Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was like to hear some comments on the difference.
Between those two verses, perhaps?
My understanding is that the fifth verse is is deeper.
And that is the divine glory that the Father has put upon the Son.
And that's a very deep glory, if I could use that term.
Oh, the one in the fifth verse would be what he is, and was from all eternity what had done. And now Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
He laid aside the display of that glory. He came down, born in this world, seen here in humiliation. But it was always that glory which was his and.
He goes back now, and he's displayed in that glory which he never really in that sense, laid aside. Laid aside in the sense that it wasn't seen, but it ever was. His never will be, for all eternity ever was and the eternity past.
But as a man he has that glory that he has glorified God about the whole question of sin.
Brought a way of blessing by which man who had been ruined by the fall would be brought in. And the head of new creation is a man, and that man the eternal Son of God, But he became a man and remains a man for all eternity. That he might have the company of his redeem here. It's not so much the thought of the Church, but it's rather the thought of that He is associating us with him as redeemed men in the family.
So brothers brought before us the family of God, and so were brought in as part of the family of God. Impose ministry. We have oneness in connection with the church, but here it's rather in the family.
With younger son in Luke, 15 when he returned to his father, his father embraced him and brought him into the house.
And I guess he's still there because they began to be married. We're eternally going to be there in that place of glory as sons with the Father.
I was thinking of that word in the 2nd Corinthians 318 that would be unveiled face beholding the glory of the Lord. As you say, brother Gordon, when he has, when he came here, the disciples really never really grasped it.
Who he really was, As was pointed out, he was Speaking of knowing the Father. And then they said, oh, now we understand that thou camest from God. Well, they were missing the point. They weren't getting that. But what would be thought in connection with the fact that he veiled that glory and they didn't see it. And now we with unveiled without the our part unveiled for us.
To gaze on that glory now.
You mean verse 24, yes.
Or you're thinking of 1 Corinthians 3 and verse 18, the last verse.
Behold, in the glory of the Lord are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. Well, I would think that has to do with the moral glory of the Lord Jesus that will be seen reproduced in the believer as we're occupied with him, because that seems to be the whole subject in First Second Corinthians rather chapter 3.
That is how that can be seen in us in a practical way. But as we are occupied with the Lord Jesus, see Him, then we are we manifest that occupied with Him. Little picture of it, something like when Moses.
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He came down. He had been there in the mountain. He came down and his face was shining. In fact, if I turn to it, because I think it's brought out there. 2nd Corinthians 3.
Verse nine. First administration of condemnation be glory, that was the giving of the law. There was a great display of glory manifested when the law was given. Much more shall administration of righteousness exceed in glory, or even that which was made glorious, hath no glory in this respect by reason of the glory that excelleth, for that would show as done away was glorious, much more that would remain of this glorious.
Seeing then, that we have this hope, we use great plainness of speech.
And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold that.
A look to the end of that which is abolished. But their minds were blinded. For until this day remain at the same veil, untaken away in the reading of the Old Testament, which veil is done away in Christ. But even under this day when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart.
Nevertheless, when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away. And now in the 17th verse is connected with the sixth verse. There is a parenthesis from the end of the six, where if you look at Mr. Darby, you'll see this the sixth verse, who also hath made us able ministers of the New Testament, not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the the letter Killeth. But the spirit giveth life. Now the 17th verse, now the Lord is that spirit.
And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty, but we all with open face, or unveiled face, beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord.
Are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord there was a glory. When the law was given, the holiness of God was manifested, and then God provided a way that the people could, through the sacrifices go into His presence. But there wasn't a full display of the glory of God. But since the work of redemption has been accomplished, God has been fully glorified. Now not only satisfied, but glorified.
In the work of his Son were not under law. We have the Spirit of God as the power, and knowing that that work has been completed, having our eyes upon Christ in glory, as the one who has fully glorified God about the whole question of sin, we like Moses his face reflected something of that glory which he had seen when he was on the mount receiving the instructions about the Tabernacle and.
He says there's a far greater glory when we see.
How God has been so fully revealed in the work of His beloved Son and occupied with that there's a reflection in our faces, a change in our lives by the Spirit as a result of beholding that glory.
It's beautiful, isn't it? It brings it right down to today, in the life of each one of us, young and old alike, that this can be reflected. If we are looking to Christ day by day, then we are. We don't change ourselves, but we are changed. It's a passive verb, our change, I was gonna say. I think a little picture of it is in.
Steven.
He looked up. He said. I see the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
What did the people see? His face was like the face of an Angel. He saw God has been fully glorified not by any law keeping or the giving of the law, but by the person who had glorified God about the whole question of sin. And he saw him up there at the right hand of God and it was reflected in his face. Now he says it'll be morally reflected in us if we are brought into the good and enjoyment of this. It'll be seen not by placing ourselves under law.
By seeing that one who is up there, the glorified man at the right hand of God, the one who's glorified God about the whole question of sin. It's significant, isn't it, that in connection with Moses, it says that his face shone, but he whisked, not that his face shone. It was really just the unconscious reflection of being in the presence of Jehovah on the Mount. It wasn't that he tried to make his face shine. And I think there's something very practical, perhaps for those who are a little younger here, because sometimes I hear I've heard it said, well, we need to try to generate a testimony for the Lord.
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And to live for the Lord in that way. But, brethren, it's not that we try to generate a testimony within ourselves. As we walk in company with the Lord Jesus, there will be an unconscious reflection of Christ in our lives. As the hymn writer said, not I may live well here below, but Christ our life may be. To be glorified is to have all the qualities that exalt a person brought into display. And how are those things going to be displayed in our lives? It's, I say, in company and communion.
In fellowship with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. And I believe us, we're walking with him.
Then there will be a display of Christ in our lives, not even trying to generate that from within, I say, but walking in company with himself. Well, this is very practical, but I believe that each one of us can manifest Christ in our lives as we walk with Him. And I think it's already been said earlier in these meetings, but where epistles known and read of all men, others are looking on and what they're going to see of Christ is what's manifested in your life and mind as believers down here.
How can a young person?
Do this.
Could someone explain what a young believer sitting here this afternoon can grasp of this? That this is available to him? Like to hear someone.
Speak of that a bit so that this can be made hours. Today, as our grandson was leaving before this meeting began, I said to him, I'm giving you the best advice that I ever received when I was a believer your age, and that is to keep low and to keep looking up.
I said to him, walk with the Lord. So we've been admonished to do here, take my yoke upon you and learn of me. And we walk with the Lord Jesus Christ by setting aside a daily time to spend in his company.
Reading his word and speaking to him every day in prayer, neglected. The heart grows cold. Do it and we are able to go on in communion with him and not have to expend energy determining what is his will because we're walking with him. Maybe somebody can enlarge on that a little bit. I sometimes use the little illustration in connection with the verse in the second chapter of Philippians. I believe it's verse 15.
Because it says there that he may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom he shine as lights. Or I believe really the thrust of that word is illuminators in the world. Now an illuminator is something that doesn't have any light of itself. It reflects the light of another. We look up in the November sky, and we see a big harvest moon. But the moon has no light of itself. Men have landed on the moon. It has no light of itself.
It's only reflecting the light of the sun, and I've sometimes used the illustration of the watch that I had when I was a child. I know perhaps they don't do this too much today with digital watches and so on, But when I was a child I had a watch that had luminous paint on the hands of numerals of the watch, and I used to wear it to bed because I like to see what time it was after the light was turned out. But sometimes the light would be turned out and I'd look at the watch and I couldn't see the the the time.
Even though there was luminous paint on the hands and numerals of that watch. Well, what was the answer? Well, you turn on the light for a few moments and you hold the watch up to the source. Now you turn out the light. The room is just as dark, and you haven't changed the condition of the watch. It had luminous paint all along, but now there's a difference. That watch glows in the dark because it was. It's drawing from the source. And I think what Brother Ton says is very good as we're walking in company with the Lord Jesus.
Spending time speaking to Him in our closets, in prayer and reading His word and letting Him speak to us. In other words, we speak to Him and He speaks to us. That's what fellowship is. If we get together and we have some fellowship for community, we're speaking to one another. And so He speaks to us, we speak to him. And then as a result of being in His presence that way, we like that watch. We've drawn on the source, we've drawn on the light, and we're only reflecting the light of another. We're reflecting the light of our precious Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Again, just like Moses, he came down. He wished not that his face shone, but there was a reflection of having been in the presence of his God on the mouth. When you read the Scriptures, you.
See the Lord Jesus? That's the way we look at him. That's the way we're occupied with him. And I encourage the young people to read the Gospels too, because that's where we see him in his life down here in the.
A pathway that we're passing through now and you look at him says in verse John 1 and verse one, that which we have seen, which we have looked upon, or the new translation says, that which we have contemplated. In other words, it's not only getting a glimpse of it, but it's looking in detail at the person of the Lord Jesus as he walked through this world. You see complete perfection.
No flaw there at all. And to think, dear young person, this is our life, we are entitled to say, as we view complete perfection. This is our life. Think of him as he stood there in the that time when they brought that woman, taking in adultery in the very act, and he knew very well that those others that brought that poor woman were probably as guilty as that poor woman.
And they want, they say, Moses said, that we should stone her.
That they knew that the Lord Jesus preached the forgiveness of sins and so they thought they'd laid a trap for his feet. You can't trap a perfect person. You can't do it. He was completely perfect. Instead of answering, sometimes we're quick to answer questions.
He didn't answer. Quickly he rode on the ground, stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And when he got up again, he only says a word to their conscience. He doesn't answer their question. He answers their conscience. Let him. That is without sin among you, first cast the stone at her perfection. They could do nothing with him, they marveled as they stood around him. I often say the person that scares me the most in this life is a lawyer.
Because they can twist your words to say just exactly what you didn't mean to say. And they stood around the Lord Jesus and they couldn't catch him In his words. He was completely perfect. This is the life that is ours, Moral glory, complete perfection. And yet in his life down here, it's beautiful to see other glories that even though his glory was largely veiled, once in a while they've shown out.
When he was on the ship in the middle of that storm, he was asleep. Sometimes I say, does God go to sleep?
Never. He was asleep. He was human as well as divine. And they woke him up. And they and he stands up and rebukes the wind in the waves. There you see him.
In his Creator glory, controlling all the elements of life down here is a humble man as a man the poorest of the poor.
And yet, controlling the elements of life, those little things, show his glory. We need to contemplate that. Read your Bible, look at the Lord Jesus, and as you're occupied with him, it's going to have a transforming effect. There's one other portion I'd like to share. I really enjoyed it. If some other brother has a thought about it, I'd like to hear about it too. But in John One.
The first chapter of John's Gospel and the.
The well known verse verse 14.
John says the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. Here's something that the disciples.
Be held in the Lord Jesus a glory, it says the glory as of an only begotten with the Father.
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And the suggestion I would make, and I'd like to hear, this is not right. But here was one man in this world who was motivated by nothing else but that. What was the will of his father? Here was a man who went through this life.
An unbroken fellowship with his father unflouted fellowship ever. And the disciples as they saw that man, and they knew something of the motives that motivated their hearts and the hearts of.
That we have too, and so many times we have different motives. But they saw in the Lord Jesus a man who had only one thing that he was here for, and that was for the glory of his Father, that unbroken fellowship. He was always occupied.
With things down here in how they related to his father, and that's the way he passed through this life. In the 4th chapter, when he met that poor Samaritan woman and the disciples came to him and offered him food, he wasn't interested. He said my meat is to do the will of him that sent me and to finish his work. That was the only thing that really motivated him down here.
What you've been talking about is the Lord's moral glory. He was always perfect in every relationship, always doing the will of his Father. But what you have in verse 14 of John One is his essential glory as the eternal, only begotten Son of God. And they saw that they by faith they pierced the veil of human flesh which surrounded that glory, and they saw His glory.
How many loaves have he?
Five and two small fishes make the men sit down. And he broke the loaves and distributed and they were all filled, multiplied the loaves. He was asleep on a pillow in the boat. The storm came up. They awoke him. Master Karastown, not that we perish. He stood up and said, peace, be still. He's still the waves and the storm. And they said, what manner of man is this?
That was not moral glory. That was his essential glory, they saw. Who is this the end of John? 1 Nathaniel, He saith unto him, Verse 48 Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, When thou hast under the fig tree, I saw thee. That was evidently Nathaniel's prayer room, where he was alone with God. No one could have seen him. Nathaniel answered, Notice the answer.
And said unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God, Thou art the king of Israel. How did he arrive at that conclusion? He saw his glory. He saw who he was. That's why they crucified him, because he claimed to be the Son of God. That to them was blasphemy. That was as some brothers said it today.
I think Henry did that. Sonship is equality with the father, not the inferiority.
Equality with the Father. And that's what they saw. They saw his personal essential glory as the eternal Son. That's John 114. There are many other many other instances of that in Scripture too. Tie that in then with verse 22 of our chapter.
Go ahead. No, I'm asking. Oh, I thought you were going to tell us. I know.
We had that verse brought before us in the 13th of John.
With what has been said to what has been asked, now is the Son of Man glorified.
And God is glorified in him. The only glory of man is obedience to God. And so in beholding the moral glory that we have in verse 22 in our chapter, which thou hast given me, I have given them.
The glory that he shares with us is the fruit of a life lived in obedience to God that takes him right into the glory on high. Wherefore God had highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name.
And so there we see ourselves raised up together and seated together in the heavenlies in Christ. And so the epitome of God's revelation to man is man glorified in God's right hand. And there he is, and that he shares with us. He won as a man in obedience to God unto death, and not the death of the cross, the right to sit at God's right hand and receive the highest accolades in heaven to describe to him. And there he is, and now that he has shared with us, brought us right up into glory.
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Seated together, raised up together, and seated together in heavenly places in Christ. But that glory is not one we will share. Excuse me? That glory we share. But the glory of John 114 we'll never share that. That's his essential glory as the only begotten Son of the Father.
And he's unique in that. And I think that's that's what he had. We have in verse five of John 17. And now, oh, Father, glorify thou, me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. He asks, as a man on earth, to be reinstated into that glory that he had with the Father before the world was. But as a man, a man in that glory. God and Man United in one person, and here now he's put into that glory.
Which he ever had, which he never left in a sense. But now as man he asked to be put into that glory That is a it's it's a it's a thought that is most, most awesome. But that's something that we have no part in. That's his own essential glory in the in the practical side of it, which our brother was speaking about, how is this going to take place in our own lives? It says about the apostle Paul after he had been saved.
They glorified God in me, that is, they saw this man who before had been a persecutor of the name of Jesus, and now they saw God glorified in a man. And I believe that is the subject that is taken up in first the 2nd Corinthians chapter 3.
That is, we are not here to place all the young people and everybody else under a certain code of laws.
But we are here to tell them, as he brings out in 2nd Corinthians 3, that the law was written on tables of stone. That's a picture of the natural heart of man. It's a Sony heart. But God's going to take away the Stony heart and give them a heart of flesh. And so if there had been a law given which could have given life, barely righteousness had been by the law. But this wonderful event has taken place that you and I consequent upon the work of Christ.
We now have the very life of Christ within us and that's why also in the chapter it says.
That being occupied with him we that where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. So we have within us every believer, young and old, in this room is has the life of Christ within him. And you have the Spirit of God as power. And so you walking through this world, he it says in John's epistle. He that saith he abideth in him, ought himself, also sought to walk even as he walked.
God has no lower standard for our walk in this world than the walk of His beloved Son. And He's made full provision for it because He's given us the life of Christ. He's given us the Holy Spirit of God. And so as that is seen in us, there is the practical manifestation. And so as people look at us, they ought not to see, oh, that's a wonderful person, but they ought to see Christ manifested in us.
Person that is Christ. Like that's what the true Christian pathway is, You say that's an impossible standard. Paul says no, it's not. God's given you the life God has given you the Holy Spirit. How can it be? We all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image occupied with him putting that old man in the place of death.
The life of Jesus is manifested in us. Now of course we're speaking, and our brother has been speaking and very clearly too, and I'm fully with it. What he has said. The Lord Jesus is the eternal Son of God. He is the one who has that God had glory, He and He only. But in ourselves the moral glory can be reproduced in this practical way, and if it is, then there will be glory brought to God as they look at us and see people in this world.
Who manifest the life of Jesus. I quote the verse again that the life of Jesus might be seen in our mortal flesh in this section we have read.
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Is there any question of our responsibility of getting into this position? Is there any doubt about getting into this position?
Oh, he's telling us what has been given to us, but the he was just asking the question how it would be practically so in US. And the Lords prayer in this 17th of John was that there might be that testimony, the 21St verse, that they all may be one, as thou father art in me, and I and thee that they also may be one in US. That the world may believe that in the thought would be testimony that the world may believe that thou has sent me.
And so I believe there was for a short moment, this testimony rendered in Jerusalem.
When the people there looked on and they saw a group of people who honored the Lord Jesus, who never said that ought that they possessed was their own, they were one heart and one soul. So there was in that sense the Lords prayer that there would be this true testimony rendered. And I believe in that sense. It comes in on the 21St verse. But we begin with the 22nd verse. We began then we were the 22nd verse. That's a new thing.
It's what God does. He gives it to us. We're not responsible. He gives it to us. We ought to enjoy that. He's going to get it to us. He's going to get us into that place. He expresses his will in the 24th verse about that.
I remember reading one of the earlier brothers illustration of verse 22 in this way that suppose a a king has great powers and over a great nation he has a son and the boy grows up and but the father has all the glory because he was the one that acquired. But the son as he goes up into manhood he goes out and he.
Wins great victories and great glory as but and now everyone is saying, oh look what he has done. And so now the sun has glory. Illustration is that the Lord Jesus came to this earth and in his manhood, in all the perfection of the work that he has done in his lowly grace, the 4th, 4th verse tells us that.
That he has glorified his Father in his life, that glory.
A reward has been given to the Son for this glorious work, and that is what he enables you and me to enjoy as we keep our eye on him.
Talking about a familiar passage.
But we see Jesus was made a little lower than the angels and the suffering of devil crowned with glory and honor, that he by the grace of God should thanks step for every man and just going on in war verses. Or it became him for whom are all things, by whom are all things and many sons of the glory to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. Now this verse for both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified.
Are all of one which cause he is not ashamed to call the threat.
That's what we have in the verses here, but carry down in the same second chapter Hebrews. In the end of verse 13 he says, behold I and the children which God has given me. So that day He's ahead and that's what he's really presenting to us here that day when all of the fruits of that work.
Of Calvary.
And as the captain of our salvation is to bring us into this glory, and then we will say that this will be displayed. Behold, I and the children which God have given me. And that's really connected with one in kind, is it not?
We are going to be like in there and them the sky feed of his glory.
That we have that, but the time has come. The church is not complete yet. The last stone has not been put in the building yet when it is.
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As we find, he's going to present it to himself a glorious church, not having small or equal or any such thing.
Looking on, is it not immerses 23 and 24. Looking on there, talking about miseries, expressing this, prepared when you have his own there with him that may be behold his glory.
It was mentioned yesterday.
Brother Yule brought it before us very beautifully that.
Jehovah Jesus is the I am. He lives present, so he can speak about events which are still future to us as having been accomplished. And so that 22nd verse says the glory which thou gavest me I have given them. We don't have it yet, but from the viewpoint.
Of the prayer here He uttered these words when he was a man on earth. They apply today and on into that day when we'll be glorified with Him. So it it embraces all that his future to us. But to him it's not future. He lives in an eternal present, doesn't he? And it's as good as done. It's like what you have in Romans 8. I'll just read it in verse 30. Moreover, whom he did predestinate them he also called.
And whom he called, then he also justified Well, verse 29 says, whom he did foreknow, he predestinated. So the foreknowledge and the predestination took place, as far as we're concerned, in the eternal past or dateless past. The the calling and the justification took place in time, and then it says whom he justified them he also glorified. Again, it's put as though it's it's accomplished because to God it is.
It's as good as done.
So that's what we have. I mean, he can view it on that past maternity.
Yes, even before the fall of Madam anything. So he's sort of carrying us into that. It seems to me right here, and I've given it to you, live as though you were in it, but haven't arrived yet. But it's yours.
Glad you had you talking about our brother, Chuck just said. And if I understood what he said the first one sorry. And because God is timeless and I understand that. But the worry of verse 22 is for us future. Is that what you're saying? Yes. Then how do we understand verse 23 where it says I and them and I don't mean that they may be made perfect in one.
And I've always begun us for being a practical oneness for believers as we No, that's first I think that let me finish. And that the world may know that thou said so. In other words, that one, because it's a result of that Gloria that they may be one. Verse 22. See, I've given them that they may be one even as we are one. As a practical matter, it should be a practical manifestation of us and believers as the testimonies in this world.
So how can that be future? That's where I'm confused. In verse 21 we have that which existed in time that the world might believe. You gave the illustration in Acts 2 and Acts 4. They were all 11 mind one heart. And they the world that that oneness was to produce belief on the part of the world that the Father sent the Son. But when the world sees us coming with the Lord Jesus one in glory with him.
2nd Thessalonians, one that Don brought before us, they will know that What does it say? They know that that thou thou has sent me, and thou hast loved them as thou has loved me. So. In that future day when they see us one with Christ in glory, they'll see they'll say, well, he he he must love them as much as the Father must love them as much as he loves his Son. They're in the same glory. They're in the same glory. Christ, as a man in glory, will come back with us in glory.
Bodies just like his.
Glorified bodies. That's what it's talking about, isn't it? That's the verse our brother he spoke about today in Second Thessalonians. Chapter one, wasn't it? Yes. When he shall come, the 10th verse of first chapter, Second Thessalonians, when he shall come to be glorified in his Saints and to be admired in all them that believe he isn't always admired. Now they glorified God in Paul. That was the present testimony that was rendered by a man who really was seeking to please his Lord.
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And they glorified God as they saw a man who was displaying this. But in a future day, isn't this lovely? It will be true of all. And it says, when he shall come to be glorified in his Saints, and to be admired in all them that believe.
Because our testimony among you was believed in that day.
I didn't want to say anything against what's been said in a practical way from 2nd Corinthians 3. I think that's excellent. We need that practical truth to go on according to this. But in a simple way, we look at this chapter may have 3. Oneness, Oneness in communion. That's believing his words, acting upon it.
Then if we do that, we can be one in festival. But man always breaks down and any tested footage, now you get the chapter, verse 22 and I don't see any responsibility that God does that He's going to bring us into glory. He never is defeated. This is his purpose, the test man along the way. Then he brings in, I'm going to show you what I can do and he brings us in there to enjoy all that glory. Now he tells us all this for our enjoyment down here where we're still in the scene where practice is very, very important.
And when that happens, the world will know. They will know. They will know. It is not defeated. They will know. But.
That's the world in a better sense, isn't it?
That will know. I mean, there is that part of the world that that will come into blessing.
Where'd you get the world? In a better sense, that's the new site. Well, you do get it in Hebrews to come, the age to come, that sense. But I don't know if that's here.
It's the age to come, and the world will be restored as as still as the first creation during the millennial. It will still be the first creation when Christ will be the first born there in His glory, but it will still be this world purged and given to his somewhere. So, and that's the sense you're talking about, brother Don. They'll be brought into subjection and they'll.
They'll yield A submission to him and.
So it will be a millennial scene, and of course the church will have its displayed glory with him. I think you can carry this farther than the Millennium.
This verse was referred to in Hebrews 2 That he might be the first born. Better read that among many brethren.
One of the writers that we esteem says that that is light and that it goes on into the eternal day.
No, I should say the 11Th verse of Hebrews 2, for both he that sanctify it and they that are sanctified are all of one. Now that's life.
And it says for which 'cause he is not ashamed to call them, rather well, you can find this statement in one of the writings from this man we mentioned frequently about.
Our time here present and the Millennium and the eternal day.
And in fact, he says.
Our time here now is a training time.
Or a reigning time, even as that will be, for the eternal day that is the Millennium comes in between.
Introduce us into that perfect thing. It's going to be perfect. The eternal day. God is going to get the full victory.
I do have a question, Excuse me, in the third chapter of Revelation in the night verse, is this the connection with the future? It says I will make them to come and worship before thy feet and to know that I have loved thee.
Is this the perspective that we're looking at rather?
Well, I believe myself that it's the judgment seat of Christ, and God will manifest his approval of those who kept His word and did not deny His name. It isn't that they worship us, but they recognize that that was the true way of gathering and worship and praise to the Lord. Keeping His word and not denying his name as much of what is called worship in Christendom, but is not keeping His word. It isn't giving, denying, it is denying his name. Many dear Christians.
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But I believe there is going to be a manifestation, and there will be that which is, shall I say it please, and pleasing to the Lord. And so it says, Well done, thou good and faithful servant, I take it that way, because that was to Philadelphia, and that was to encourage those who kept his word and didn't deny his name in difficult times.
When he comes out of heaven as the Lord of Lord and King of kings.
He's going to bring the redeemed with him and that's going to be a time out displaying that he was associated himself with those that he loved and now they come out of heaven.
Glorious event when He manifests His power and we are now associated with him as the Lord of Lords and Kingdom. Kings be read and army that comes with him by the reading, aren't they? That's second Thessalonians won again, but the thought that came before me in this 21St chapter of John and verse 25, the very last verse in John's Gospel.
And there are also many other things which Jesus did the which if they should be written everyone. I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. Does that pertain to his acquired glories? That's a mysterious statement, isn't it? What would you say about that?
Well, I didn't read it, but I heard that Mister Bellitt made the remark. That was the thought of a loving, worshipping heart. That is, he thought, oh, I could tell and tell and tell, but I could never tell at all.
Isn't that what the father is going to?
To spend an eternity in telling us the glories and the glorious work that the blessed Son of His love accomplished for his glory.
Not for our glory, but for his glory throughout eternity never come to an end. Look at the future in the light of two events.
The blessed hope, the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviors, Jesus Christ.
And the apostle speaks of loving his appearing. Oh, he talked a great deal. And that's very, very blessing. You're looking for that blessed hope. It might happen today, but that's only the beginning of the glory that we enter into that he shares with us in that eternal day.
Love is hearing what we really delight in seeing and have his glory.
He's so deserving of it.
She doesn't, And there's a crown of righteousness. Speak a lot of loving his appearing. You want to see him in his glory. Whatever.
It's just something that overwhelms you to bring it all down to us so that the younger ones can understand there's such a beautiful little picture in First Peter Chapter one.
As it were a mountain peak, and it's when we greatly rejoice. And then the decline starts, But now vote for a seasoned yard.
Heaviness of manifold temptations, that the trial of your faith might be found under praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ, from having not seen you love, in whom though now you see Him not yet believing, you rejoice with joy, unspeakable and full of glory. We're in the valley now that loved ones, but if we live for Him.
We're going to be displayed with him as ones who reflected some of that glory, and we're going to be shown as those prizes, those cups, those trophies that he has won. So let's keep on today, young and old are like Speaking of reading the word of God.
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Gave us something. I've enjoyed reading the gospel especially.
It's popular to understand about the family and how when you put your family in it and when you read these, beautiful.
Happenings in the Lord Jesus Mythical like the blind. Barbie is to use it for an illustration. If you just see yourself there is that poor blind beggars and you can put yourself and all of a sudden characters the martyrs and he stops.
As he calls it.
And what happened? You know his eyes are open and he sees Jesus, and then you know he follows. You just have to put yourself there, and you do that when you're reading the word of God.
To me, they're amazing.
Now the whole picture just takes on a very, very special.
Thing in your life, whether it's the prodigal son or whoever, you know, if you just put yourself there and you think of the product of some coming back and there's the Father. He has his arms around you, you know, and covering you with kisses and everything is of the father because the Father gives him everything.
And they go in my house, but they enjoy it together, all right. To me, it's just a bit of joy just to put myself. And I think it has to come to that possible thing. Even if you're in the Book of the Disciples or wherever it is, you just put yourself there, you got a real blessing and the real message from God.
Is there something else here too? I just suggest the thought and maybe someone can enlarge on it. But I've noticed that in the expressions used in John's Gospel and in John's epistle, and particularly in this chapter, the Father is spoken of as being in the sun and the sun in the Father, And we are spoken of as being in the sun and the sun in US, but never us in the Father or the Father in US.
In a simple way, I could I have enjoyed that thought that Christ is the center of it all. Will we know the Father? Do we know the Father now? And indeed we do. Are we conscious and living in the consciousness of that relationship? Indeed we should be.
But the expressions in Scripture carefully guard the person of the Son in that the Father in me and I in him, ye and me and I in you. And I'm not quoting it directly, but from various scriptures I say, maybe someone else could enlarge on that a little. It's been very precious to my own soul to see how that the person of the sun is carefully set apart in that way, while bringing the whole of the blessed relationship in between us.
And the Father and the Son.
It's characteristic of John's writings, isn't it?
The holiness of this person deserve to go to Matthew baby. One of the other gospel brings in the same thing and.
Henry made a nice statement about we could.
Distinguish between the persons but the rest of paper. Henry the father and the son. We distinguish, but you can't take apart.
Separate, and that's what I leave N George is something like the holy ground upon which Moses stood at the Bush. And Joshua was that military man with a sword ready but in Matthew 11, just to guard against trying to separate.
Too much the deity of which we shall never be apart.
It says in the 20.
Seventh verse, All things are delivered unto me of my Father.
And no man knows the Son but the Father. The Father knows the Son. Neither knoweth any man the Father save the Son. And he to whom the Son will reveal the Father's the only one that knows the problem. It's like what was put up here in Sunday School. Gordon Mack. How can you understand that? Well, he is.
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God needs mine can't separate him.
You have to understand, I just need to believe it absolutely. It's nice to see that preceding verse though in the Matthew 11, verse 25. And at that time Jesus answered and said, I thank the old Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and has revealed them unto babes. That's what we're enjoying in these meetings.
In a practical way, just to go back to that Second Corinthians chapter 3.
I think it's very good to take notice.
That Mister Darby alters the wording of that passage a little in verse 18, But we all, with open face unveiled, beholding the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as thy the Lord, the Spirit that impressed me when I saw that that here Lordship is ascribed to the Spirit of God.
Which implies that the Spirit of God ought to have that authority over our hearts to bring these precious things before us. That's what He delights to occupy us with. But so often he has to occupy us with ourselves that we might judge things that are hindering the enjoyment of the glories of Christ.
Spirit of God is doing two things now for us that He won't have to do in the glory He's helping our infirmities tells us that in Romans 8 the Spirit helps our infirmities. So we may come to a reading like this and we are tired or we have a headache or something. And how often if the ministry is precious about the Lord Jesus, why you forget the headache And we enjoy it because the Spirit helps our infirmities and so we're able to rise above them. Doesn't remove them but helps our infirmities makes intercessions for us.
And then he also helps us in connection with the flesh. We all have the flesh in us, that old man that never improves. And it says the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the spirit against the flesh. And these are the contrary, the one to the other, so that you cannot do the things that you would. So we're all conscious that we have that old man that hinders our enjoyment of Christ. But the Spirit helps us so that we keep that old man in the place of death so that we can. He's not taken away, not burned out or something, but.
He helps us to keep him in the place, so we reckon ourselves dead indeed unto sin. But when we get to glory and the Spirit of God will be freed, he won't have to help our infirmities. We won't have any. He won't have to help us overcome the old man. We won't have any old man. But he'll be able to do just what he delights to do, to shed abroad the love of God in our hearts, to occupy us with the wondrous love of Christ, so that all which we only see dimly we see through.
A glass darkier through a what is it? A dim window.
I think we see through a dim window, but then face to face the spirit will be absolutely free to give us to lead our souls into the full enjoyment. Not we're going to possess any more than we already possess, but we will be able to enjoy in fullness, but we now only enjoy in part.
I wonder if in the last little few minutes we have here, we could go on to the last two verses.
Verse 25 and verse 26.
All righteous, Father, the world have not known thee, but I have known thee, and these have known that thou has sent.
And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare him and the law, for it thou hast love to be, may be in them, and I in them.
Remember that your father are saying.
The 15th chapter.
We should remind ourselves of this every day. And that's the verse nine of chapter 15.
As the Father had loved me, so have I loved you.
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Continue me in my mouth. I was just thinking of exposing this prayer.
Wherewith thou hast loved me.
That the love of with God love me may be in them, and I in them.
As we consider the law that.
There was between the Father and the Son.
And God opened the heavens and said, This is my beloved Son.
In whom I am well pleased, and the verses we read this morning or were read this morning.
Where this as we have in John 10.
Therefore that my father.
Love me because I lay down my life and I may take it again.
Therefore, that my father loved me, but we know that love.
Although Father to the Son, and there was no cause for that love to ever precipitate or to fail or anything, the perfection of that love, because of the perfect obedience and dependence of the Lord Jesus, but with us to think that as the Father had loved me.
Even so have I loved you.
And we know that love is of God from first John four and we love because we have his life shown to us there. In first John four we love one another because love is of God, and that love that we expressed is because we have eternal life to know.
But we just sort of enjoy.
This marvelous truth that God loves us.
Because he loved his son.
You know the language of the word of God, the.
It's very difficult to express it not but the language of these verses. As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Continue thee in my thumb.
That love of the Father to the Son is mentioned seven times in this gospel.
This is the last one in the last verse of 17. Must be important a complete number of times. The love of the Father for the Son is mentioned in John's Gospel.
I've enjoyed the connection with the joy and the love of the Father.
That in first John chapter 2, when we are told not to love the world, love not the world neither the things that are in the world.
Says if any man love the world, the love of the father is not in him.
So it's in contrast the love of the world, the love of the father, I think that's so tremendous for us or younger young people to get a hold of.
Sometimes we can stand and exhort against worldly not.
All day and all night, it really doesn't have any effect. But what is the real?
Preventative for worldliness.
Is enjoying the love of the Father.
You enjoy the love of the Father. There will be no desire in your heart for the love of this world. It just won't be there. The two things cannot occupy the same heart at the same time. But if you see me.
With the love of the world evidently in my life.
It's because I'm not enjoying the love of the pot. It's in contrast is that the force of first John 5 and verse 5?
Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? And then connecting that with this 25th verse. Oh righteous Father, the world has not known thee. The world likes to talk about the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man.
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But what did they do to God's son? They took him and nailed him on a cross. And how can they talk about the fatherhood of God and enjoy it? Why, He's a righteous father and he's going to demand that there is going to be something to be settled in connection with what this world has done to his son. And so the way we overcome the world, if somebody took and gave someone I love the most shameful death possible.
It wouldn't be hard for me to say no to their friendship, because I would think of what they did to someone whom I loved so much. And So what overcomes the world is to believe that that person who they put on a cross was the son of God who loved me and gave himself for me. And so as far as the world is concerned, they can talk about the fatherhood of God. But all righteous father, the world has not known thee. But then there's such a sharp contrast drawn with a real believer, is our brother Bob has been saying.
The Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you. Continue ye and my love, and the Lord praise that we always, always be in the enjoyment of this, that the love were with thou hast loved me, may be in them.
And the power for enjoyment, We have Christ in us, the hope of glory. So He's really closing the prayer by saying, well, simply be hard to overcome the world when we know these things and when we live in the enjoyment of them. This is really an appeal to our hearts, not only at the end of this chapter, but at the end of these meetings, because we've had before us in these meetings many practical things in connection with our walk and that which ought to characterize us as the people of God.
As we go through this world. But all those exhortations really don't have any effect to a heart that isn't attracted to the person of Christ. I really believe there's only one way to be a true disciple, a true follower, and that's to have a heart where there's only one object in it, and that object is Christ. Because I believe where our heart is, then our feet will follow. And I would just say again to those of us who are younger, we're going to go back now to the everyday situations of life. We're going to go back to school if the Lord leaves us here.
We're going to go back to the shop or to the office. We're going to go back to the home and to the local assembly. And how, what effect are these things going to have in a practical way on our lives? Wonderful to be here this weekend and to have these wonderful things brought before us from God's word. But the test is going to come when we go back to the real life situations. But I think you'll find, as you read through the Word of God, examples given of men and women and young people who live for God's glory, whether they were in the Old Testament or in the New Testament.
Those men and women that follow the Lord and live for His glory, even against all kinds of odds and difficulties, where men and women and young people who had a heart for the Lord. And so if our heart is attracted to the person of Christ, then it's not hard to obey His word. If a man loved me, he will keep my commandments. Rather, that's true Christian liberties. People talk about Christian liberty and use it as license to do what they like to.
Follow some course.
Christian liberty is in the enjoyment of the person of Christ with a heart so attracted to himself that we don't like to do His commandments, just like the Lord Himself, He said, I delight to do thy will. Oh God, He was in the perfect enjoyment of the Father and the Father's love, and as a result His delight, His meat and drink was to do the Father's will. If we're in the enjoyment of the person of Christ and our hearts go out to Him, then it's not hard to follow because the joy and the light of our hearts will be to do His will as well.
I know of two occasions that come to mind. There was a young man that worked in a factory years ago.
And by the demeanor and character of his walk and his life, one day a man came over and said to him, I want what you've got. And the young man says I have Christ. And that was all that there was sin. Another case was the brother on the street preaching. He was preaching the gospel, and he was telling him the wonderful love of Christ and a man that was leading thereby he finally, when the meeting was over, he said.
I want what you've got. And the brothers. I have Christ, and it's like a brother.
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I just mentioned, you know, if there's Christ in the heart, it's going to shine out of the light and ways that we don't even realize.
And then that's ugly verse John 17 nine. You know, when David was in Getty and that was when David was a thick leg and they burned the pound down and they were all very much grieved. You know, we get very much grief sometimes with a similar situation, maybe, but as David encouraged himself in the Lord and you know that Runabout, he just quoted that favorite verse of mine when I get discouraged.
John 15, verse nine. As the Father hath loved me, that winds up my heart, brethren, I need to have my heart wound up. And then a brother used to say, we need to be obedient to the word of God. That was his formula for everything you know, but you know obedience to the word of God.
Is one thing. I don't have the power to do it, but if my heart is wound up with the love of Christ, the obedience is going to follow. Like it was said, the feet go where the heart leads that. And if I'm occupied with my response to the Lord, to the Lord and my love for Him, I'm only going to be discouraged because my response is cold at best. But if I'm occupied with himself and His love and the love of the Father for the Son, that's what's going to produce love in my heart.
Sometimes said that when the bride in the Song of Solomon was occupied with her bridegroom, she becomes less and less occupied with herself and her response as she enumerates the qualities and glories of the bridegroom. And at the end of it all, I have no doubt her response had deepened. But it was a result of not being occupied with her love for him, but being occupied with himself and his love for her. That's what deepened the response in her heart. And so as we leave these meetings, as we if we go in the enjoyment of his love and the love of the Father for the Son.
Then it cannot help but produce a greater response in our hearts, and again have been said where our heart is. Then our feet will follow in the path of faithfulness. 327.
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