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Hebrews 5

Heb. 5:8 KJV (With Strong’s)

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Though
kaiper (Greek #2539)
and indeed, i.e. nevertheless or notwithstanding
KJV usage: and yet, although.
Pronounce: kah'-ee-per
Origin: from 2532 and 4007
he were
on (Greek #5607)
and the neuter ὄν (on) present participle of 1510; being
KJV usage: be, come, have.
Pronounce: oan
Origin: οὖσα (oo'-sah)
a Son
huios (Greek #5207)
a "son" (sometimes of animals), used very widely of immediate, remote or figuratively, kinship
KJV usage: child, foal, son.
Pronounce: hwee-os'
Origin: apparently a primary word
, yet
kaiper (Greek #2539)
and indeed, i.e. nevertheless or notwithstanding
KJV usage: and yet, although.
Pronounce: kah'-ee-per
Origin: from 2532 and 4007
learned he
manthano (Greek #3129)
to learn (in any way)
KJV usage: learn, understand.
Pronounce: man-than'-o
Origin: prolongation from a primary verb, another form of which, μαθέω, is used as an alternate in certain tenses
obedience
ho (Greek #3588)
the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom)
KJV usage: the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.
Pronounce: ho
Origin: ἡ (hay), and the neuter τό (to) in all their inflections
hupakoe (Greek #5218)
attentive hearkening, i.e. (by implication) compliance or submission
KJV usage: obedience, (make) obedient, obey(-ing).
Pronounce: hoop-ak-o-ay'
Origin: from 5219
o by
apo (Greek #575)
"off," i.e. away (from something near), in various senses (of place, time, or relation; literal or figurative)
KJV usage: (X here-)after, ago, at, because of, before, by (the space of), for(-th), from, in, (out) of, off, (up-)on(-ce), since, with. In composition (as a prefix) it usually denotes separation, departure, cessation, completion, reversal, etc.
Pronounce: apo'
Origin: a primary particle
the things which
hos (Greek #3739)
the relatively (sometimes demonstrative) pronoun, who, which, what, that
KJV usage: one, (an-, the) other, some, that, what, which, who(-m, -se), etc. See also 3757.
Pronounce: hos
Origin: ἥ (hay), and neuter ὅ (ho) probably a primary word (or perhaps a form of the article 3588)
he suffered
pascho (Greek #3958)
to experience a sensation or impression (usually painful)
KJV usage: feel, passion, suffer, vex.
Pronounce: pas'-kho
Origin: πάθω (path'-o), and πένθω (pen'-tho), used only in certain tenses for it apparently a primary verb
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Phil. 2:8• 8and having been found in figure as a man, humbled himself, becoming obedient even unto death, and that the death of the cross. (Phil. 2:8)

Cross References

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Ministry on This Verse

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he were.
Heb. 1:5,8• 5For to which of the angels said he ever, *Thou* art my Son: this day have *I* begotten thee? and again, *I* will be to him for father, and *he* shall be to me for son?
 8but as to the Son, Thy throne, O God, is to the age of the age, and a sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. (Heb. 1:5,8)
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Heb. 3:6• 6but Christ, as Son over his house, whose house are *we*, if indeed we hold fast the boldness and the boast of hope firm to the end. (Heb. 3:6)
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Heb. 10:5‑9• 5Wherefore coming into the world he says, Sacrifice and offering thou willedst not; but thou hast prepared me a body.
 6Thou tookest no pleasure in burnt-offerings and sacrifices for sin.
 7Then I said, Lo, I come (in the roll of the book it is written of me) to do, O God, thy will.
 8Above, saying Sacrifices and offerings and burnt-offerings and sacrifices for sin thou willedst not, neither tookest pleasure in (which are offered according to the law);
 9then he said, Lo, I come to do thy will. He takes away the first that he may establish the second; (Heb. 10:5‑9)
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Isa. 50:5‑6• 5The Lord Jehovah hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious; I turned not away back.
 6I gave my back to smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair; I hid not my face from shame and spitting. (Isa. 50:5‑6)
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Matt. 3:15• 15But Jesus answering said to him, Suffer it now; for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffers him. (Matt. 3:15)
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John 4:34• 34Jesus says to them, My food is that I should do the will of him that has sent me, and that I should finish his work. (John 4:34)
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John 6:38• 38For I am come down from heaven, not that I should do *my* will, but the will of him that has sent me. (John 6:38)
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John 15:10• 10If ye shall keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love, as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love. (John 15:10)
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Phil. 2:8• 8and having been found in figure as a man, humbled himself, becoming obedient even unto death, and that the death of the cross. (Phil. 2:8)
• We learn to obey as God's children, who were once sons of disobedience; He being Son was used to speak, and it was done, He knew not what obedience was. But when He became man, He took loyally that place (“Hebrews 5:7-10” by W. Kelly)
• We have to learn obedience because we have a wicked will: He because He was God over all who, from eternity, had ever commanded. We oftentimes learn obedience by the suffering we bring upon ourselves through disobedience: He learned obedience by the suffering entailed through His obedience to the will of God. He learned by experience what it cost to obey. (“Christ's Sufferings and Call to Priesthood: Hebrews 5:1-10” by H. Smith)
• “Learned He obedience.” The eternal Son, Creator and Commander became also the lowly, suffering, obedient Man, an experience new to Him. (“Help on Hard Verses” by A.C. Brown)

J. N. Darby Translation

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though he were Sonf, he learned obedience from the things which he suffered;

JND Translation Notes

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Alluding to the citation of Ps. 2 just above.

W. Kelly Translation

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though being Sona, he learned obedience from the things which he suffered,

WK Translation Notes

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a
"Though He were Son," or "Son as He was," is better than "a" Son.